Once bitter rivals, MMA pioneers Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock joined forces Thursday, appearing on "Off The Record" (OTR) with Michael Landsberg in a no holds barred interview. Vans Shoes Clearance . Hardcore MMA fans will remember these two for their epic trilogy that occurred between 2002 and 2006. Their fights were often credited for the UFCs early mainstream success. During the interview, discussion included fighter salaries and criticisms of UFC President Dana Whites compensation towards UFC fighters. "Dana White is an excellent promoter - He goes out and promotes the sport for what it is. But hes not the one getting in the cage, thats entertaining the fans who are watching and buying the pay-per views." said Ortiz via satellite. "(These) fighters are the ones who are stepping in and putting our lives on the line and (providing) entertainment for fans to watch the fights." The former UFC 205lb title holder, who is now signed with the Bellator Fighting Championships, also claims it was him and Shamrock who were responsible for where the promotion is today, not the UFC President. "(Myself) and Ken were probably the ones who sold the biggest pay-per- view fights to date." The 49-year old Shamrock shares the same sentiment and believes it was the fighters who aided in the UFCs success. "If Dana White didnt have you (Tito Ortiz), Chuck (Liddell), me or Frank (Shamrock) - for him to be able to make the money off our back, our sweat, our blood. Where would he be?" said Shamrock. He added "Without the charisma and talent that we (displayed at that time). Dana wouldnt have a job right now. " For the former Ultimate Fighter coach Shamrock has also been battling outside the cage, owing $175,000 to the UFC stemming from a three-year court order. While he couldnt get into specifics, Shamrock believes it should be the other way around. "Its kind of funny when people talk about owing. When you look at how much money was made in the UFC when I was there and the buy rates that were being brought in." "When I came in, I told (Dana White) that I promise you that these (pay-per-view) buy rates will jump over 100,000 (purchases). He didnt believe me. Then lied to me about what the buy rates were because he didnt want to pay me what I was supposed to get." "If anybody owes money, (Dana White) owes the fighters money," Shamrock added. When asked if Ortiz had been reasonably compensated throughout his career, "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" shook his head. "Reasonably? Not Reasonably. Im well off for the surgeries that Ive had. And the things I got to look forward to when Im fifty, sixty years old, no" One topic brought up was the sport of boxing and how these athletes make far more money than MMA fighters. Ortiz believes UFC fighter salaries should be on par with boxers "I look at a guy like Floyd Mayweather who makes 42 million dollars for a pay-per-view. What am I doing different that this guy is doing? Im not just sparring, Im going there trying to hurt a guy. "I think youre forgetting were the fighters, were putting on the show," Ortiz added. On November 2nd Ortiz makes his Bellator debut in the main event on the promotions first ever pay-per-view. This has warranted criticisms from fans as the 38-year old has gone 1-6 in his last seven fights. But the father of three defends those claims, citing that half of his losses in particular to Forrest Griffin, Matt Hamill and Lyoto Machida all went to the judges scorecards "Ive always fought the top guys in the world. Ive got split decisions, decisions," said Ortiz When asked if he is ready for the fight, Ortiz responded "My minds straight, my bodys straight" Shamrock added that he will be tuning in as well. "Im going to watch it. I think if you dont buy it youre going to miss a really great fight." Tune into Ortiz taking on former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson Saturday November 2nd at the Convention and Entertainment Center in Long Beach, California for Bellator 106. Discount Vans Shoes . The Canadiens captain, who underwent surgery on his injured biceps in the off-season, had been skating with the team in a non-contact capacity since last week. Vans Outlet Online . The 33-year-old Spaniard, who held the lead since the second round, turned in a solid final round that featured six birdies and two bogeys to finish on 22-under 266. The victory is Garcias first this year with his last win coming at the Johor Open, an Asian Tour event in Malaysia last December. http://www.vansoutletsale.com/ .C. - Alberta prop Andrew Tiedemann will captain Canada against Uruguay on Friday, the opening day of competition at the IRB Americas Rugby Championship. DENVER -- Semyon Varlamov preferred his play do his talking, and it spoke volumes for the Colorado Avalanche. Varlamov made 33 saves and Ryan OReilly had a goal and scored in the shootout as the Avalanche beat the New Jersey Devils 2-1 on Thursday night. Matt Duchene also scored in the shootout for the Avalanche, who have won three straight -- with the last two thanks in large part to the play of their reticent goaltender. "I hate talking about myself. Ask Patrick," Varlamov said, deferring to coach Patrick Roy. Colorado didnt need much offence with Varlamov in net. After stopping 46 shots in a 3-2 overtime win in Chicago on Tuesday, Varlamov had another strong game against the Devils. He made five saves on a power play early in the third and then made another on Patrik Elias point-blank shot from the slot with about 13 minutes left. The Avalanche nearly took a 2-0 lead on Duchenes wrister moments later, but Schneider made the save. Varlamov had five saves in overtime and then stoned Elias and Adam Henrique in the shootout. "I got a guy lying on his stomach and I couldnt finish it," Elias said. Roy had no problem praising his goalie. "I like the effort we had from our goalie. He made some great saves," Roy said. "We put a lot on our goalie and our goalie has been phenomenal." Cory Schneider stopped 37 shots and Andrei Loktionov scored for the Devils, who had their two-game winning streak stopped. The Devils are 0-8 in shootouts this season, with Schneider losing half of those. New Jersey has lost 12 straight shootouts dating to last season. Schneider couldnt end the drought after keeping his team in the game for the first two periods. "I dont know what it is right now, Im not coming up with the saves in the shootout,&qquot; he said after his fourth shootout loss of the season. China Vans Shoes Wholesale. . "When youre not getting wins from it and youre leaving points on the table, it matters." The Avalanche played without centre Paul Stastny (leg) and defenceman Cory Sarich (back) for the second straight game. Roy chose to dress just 11 forwards and go with seven defencemen against the Devils. OReilly, double-shifting on the fourth line, opened the scoring at 8:55 of the first. He took a pass from behind the net from Patrick Bordeleau and beat Schneider with a high snap shot from the slot. It was his team-leading 18th of the season. "We ran a cycle play after Malone kept the puck in," OReilly said. "Malone did that and Bordy saw me alone out front and I got the shot off quick." Colorado held a 13-2 shot advantage in the second period and controlled play for most of the first 40 minutes. Things changed in the third when New Jersey found its legs and put 18 shots on Varlamov. "The way we played in the third, it seemed like they couldnt play with us," Elias said. "It was like two different games." 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